[FF] Accessibility shortcuts problem

[Michał]

Tested on firefox 3.6.16 on ubuntu. Shortcut (alt+f10) from ​http://docs.cksource.com/CKEditor_3.x/Users_Guide/Keyboard_Shortcuts in Accessibility section doesn't work.

[Jakub Ś]

I have tested this also on Opera and Chromium and it doesn't work there either.

Ubuntu uses Alt+F10 to resize windows. Browser window is resized, but CKEditor doesn't set focus on toolbar afterwards thus making access to the toolbar through keyboard impossible.

[Gareth Alexander]

Ubuntu 12.04 has changed the binding for Alt+F10 to open the indicator menu. Still makes access to the toolbar impossible using a keyboard.

[Wiktor Walc]

Reported also in ​http://drupal.org/node/1879430

How about providing another alternative shortcut?

[Wiktor Walc]

As Piotrek suggested, we have a potentially related issue in #9827. Let's see if we can solve them together.

[Frederico Caldeira Knabben]

I'm untargetting this for now, considering that our accessibility focus is JAWS (therefore Windows),

[Gareth Alexander]

Fair enough if that's the policy that has been taken, but accessibility is about more than just providing for blind users.

Consideration should be also given to other with other types of accessibility requirements. For example, those with diminished motor skills that means they have full vision but can't use a mouse.

I was going to suggest if this was going to be looked at perhaps take into consideration Mac users who currently have to use fn-option-F10, the 3 key option isn't always great if someone is only able to use the keyboard with one hand.

[Andrew Macpherson]

The Linux problem described isn't universal to all set-ups. Perhaps the Ubuntu problem is specific to the Unity desktop environment.

I succeeded in using Alt + 0, Alt + F10, Alt + F11, using:

• Linux Mint 13 KDE edition (Ubuntu 12.04 based)
• KDE 4.8.5
• Chromium 24
• CKeditor 4.0 DEV (I was trying out Drupal 8 dev)
• NOT using a screenreader

[Mike Gifford]

Adding keyword.

[Jakub Ś]

@mgifford please note that component has Accessibility name set. We use only few values for keywords (like browsers' and operating systems' names versions). This key word is not necessary there.

[Wiktor Walc]

I have the same problem on Fedora 19 (with Gnome 3.8). Alt + F10 resizes the browser window.

[Wiktor Walc]

#10503 was marked as duplicate

[Olek Nowodziński]

cc

[Piotrek Koszuliński]

I discussed this issue with @m.lewandowski and @fredck and the only thing we can do is of course to add an alternative keystroke and documenting it.

Questions asked were:

• do we need to do this – is it our bug?
• what keystroke can we use? Would ALT+SHIFT+F10 be ok (seems to do nothing on Ubuntu)?

The answer for the 1st question is that yes, this is our problem. Some keystrokes are reserved for OS and of course they can vary, but it's not a browser issue that we cannot intercept them and not an OS issue.

The 2nd question is still open.